Monday, February 06, 2006

What is Race?


10 ideas about race. Pick 3 of the points made here. Describe the points and critique the ideas you chose.

Chinese-American Lisa See. Here's a biography of the author of "On Golden Mountain."

Try this exercise on sorting people.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

The 10 ideas on race were insightful. Even though I knew most of those points already, reading them again reinforces my thoughts and I also learned more on them. The most interesting thing was the sorting game where I got more than I expected wrong. It just proves how no one can know for sure and label people. Race is becoming too mixed anyways.

Anonymous said...

2. Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait or even gene distinguishes all the members of one so-called race from all the members of another so-called race.

I don't agree with this. Characteristics, genes, and traits are what makes a person unique, or brings people together. When you're born, you're exposed to your culture, as with everyone else around you. Your culture is what brings your race together. Like what we were talking about in class a few days ago, African Americans are "good at basketball," "Asians are smart," Latinos and Hispanics are "good dancers.." It's stereotypical, but then again I really do believe it's true. A race is brought together by their culture, which ties them together and makes them distinguishable from another race- not better than another, but distinguishable.

7. Race and freedom evolved together. The U.S. was founded on the radical new principle that "All men are created equal." But our early economy was based largely on slavery. How could this anomaly be rationalized? The new idea of race helped explain why some people could be denied the rights and freedoms that others took for granted.

The white man believed African Americans were not people [three-fifths act???], so therefore the theory of "All men are created equal," did not apply to them. This plays into racism as well because the white man gave "equal rights" to other white men. Even after blacks were freed, they were still treated unfairly and segragated against because racism was still so strong. If they truly believed that men outside their own race were equal to them, blacks would not have been treated the way they were. It was stubborn and close-minded. It doesn't make any sense to claim "All men are equal" because the blacks were still being treated the same way they were before the claim and slavery was still in action.

10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.

I totally agree with this.. But then again, I do believe that if people would get over themselves racism would die down a little. Not one race is better than another, or less than another. This also goes into play with how you're brought up. If you have a racist parent, there's a fifty-fifty chance that you may grow up to be racist. It's close-minded and ignorant. People need to understand that we are all equal, no matter our race, skin color, religion, sexual preference, or gender. It's so stupid to be like "Oh. I'm better than you because I'm white, I can read and write, and I have more money than you." It just shows how close-minded and stupid a person is.

Anonymous said...

3. Human subspecies don't exist. Unlike many animals, modern humans simply haven't been around long enough or isolated enough to evolve into separate subspecies or races. Despite surface appearances, we are one of the most similar of all species.

I agree that humans, of all the various types of creatures, are the most similiar in their genetic differences. However, to deny the idea of varying subspecies is fairly ignorant. Differences have occured, thereby creating varying species. Different climates and resources have altered are original status and have created different types of the same species. This explains the varying amounts of melanin, different bone structure (slight, but still existent), height, weight, and just the cultures as well. Obviously it is less obvious now due to varying degrees of reintegration, but different culture have altered very slightly genetically. One example is the Zulus. The were a much taller african tribe. Why is it that they and there children and their children's children would always retain that height or increse on it? Subspecies are existent. I do not however, support the idea that one is better than the other or that the differnces are as large as those of the rest of the animal kingdom.

6. Slavery predates race. Throughout much of human history, societies have enslaved others, often as a result of conquest or war, even debt, but not because of physical characteristics or a belief in natural inferiority. Due to a unique set of historical circumstances, ours was the first slave system where all the slaves shared similar physical characteristics.

I completely agree with this. African slave trade did not start as a racist event, but after years of its existance, it became more than just the need to own slaves for economic purposes. People, not only American, grew the need for control and power. After years of flounting their assumed prowess the concept of superiority became not only a concept, but simply an accepted thing.

10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.

I agree with this as well. The saying "Fight fire with fire," has no application here. No one can fight racism with racism. To say Black power, is just as bad as saying White power. The thing that needs to be said by both groups, and all those in between, is equality for all.

Anonymous said...

4. Skin color really is only skin deep. Most traits are inherited independently from one another. The genes influencing skin color have nothing to do with the genes influencing hair form, eye shape, blood type, musical talent, athletic ability or forms of intelligence. Knowing someone's skin color doesn't necessarily tell you anything else about him or her.

I agree with this because someone CAN'T categorize a person by how they genetically made because we're the same species, just different skin color.

9. Race isn't biological, but racism is still real. Race is a powerful social idea that gives people different access to opportunities and resources. Our government and social institutions have created advantages that disproportionately channel wealth, power, and resources to white people. This affects everyone, whether we are aware of it or not.

Yes, this is true because though race isn't genetically inserted into us, it is real from the moment we are born. And we learn from a young age about race and racism.

10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.

I absolutley agree with this because a person can't pretend that racism doesn't exist because though they can, It's hard NOT know that racism is everywhere. So we should just try to live with it.

Anonymous said...

2.race does not have genetic basis.

(response to jessica)
culture and race are not the same things. Culture is the gathering of SOCIAL BEHAVIOR of our specie and is not related at all towards the genetics of humans AT ALL. You do not have to be latino to dance well, and even so people that are native to south, central, and carribean “America” came over to this continent through the bering strait (or what ever it is called) so in truth they are asian so then are asians good dancers too? Also the reason that asians "are really smart" is not because of genetics at all, it is becasue their culture promotes strict study habits and acedemic achievement. Study habits are social, not genetic. The reason that people have different visual characteristics is because our bodies evolved to alow us to adapt to our natural surroundings. White people are white because there natural suroundings are more north, so they were not exposed to as much sun, therefore their bodies did not need to produce tons of melanin. African desendents have skin with more melanin (dark skin) to deal with the hot sun and their hair is thik and dark as another way of combating the sun. these traits do not effect their dna. Race is a social way to classify people based on the traits that people’s bodies adapted to life on earth.

7. Race and freedom evolved together. The U.S. was founded on the radical new principle that "All men are created equal." But our early economy was based largely on slavery. How could this anomaly be rationalized? The new idea of race helped explain why some people could be denied the rights and freedoms that others took for granted.

This is rationalized because when the consitution was created it was seen that all men were created equal was true (except possibly with classes of people) and was not related to "race". Later the 3/5 COMPROMISE came in to existance to solve economic problems, not racial problems. In the biging of u.s. slavery people of african desent were not lower because of "race" they were lower because they were slaves.

10. I agree with this and think that afirmative action is a way to promote equality, but there is so much more action that needs to take place. People need to become active within their communities and be active against oppressive policies and people and cororations.

p.s. some people are racist because ignorance, therefore education will bring the end of racism (ie. we need to pressure our gov. to fund public schools better)

Anonymous said...

1. Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies, like the Greeks, did not divide people according to physical distinctions, but according to religion, status, class, even language. The English language didn't even have the word 'race' until it turns up in 1508 in a poem by William Dunbar referring to a line of kings.

This kind of hard for me to believe because:
1- people had way less communication with each other, so i think seen a white person in South Africa 1000 years ago is kind of weired.
2- people married people that were from the same descent or even the same family.
3- people of the same race or tribe or even families stayed together.

Anonymous said...

10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.

This one is basically saying that acting like you're color blind isn't going to end rascism even though we all want to believe that it will. I like this point because I think all too often we, as americans, tend to think that if things were a certain way when it comes to race issues then we'd all get along better. Plus, it does make sense to get rid of rascism by actaully changing standards for EVERYONE. Not just a certain group based on race. Once we all start looking at people equally then, in a sense, the race issue will slowly melt away.

2. Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait or even gene distinguishes all the members of one so-called race from all the members of another so-called race.

This is yet another good point because it's basically saying that race can't be determined based off of genetics because what a person does has nothing to do with their genetics. This is also a very good point to make because the way a person is genetically can't define the way they act. It's like saying that it's okay to talk about someone whose a perfectly nice person because of their genetics of being who they are.

1. Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies, like the Greeks, did not divide people according to physical distinctions, but according to religion, status, class, even language. The English language didn't even have the word 'race' until it turns up in 1508 in a poem by William Dunbar referring to a line of kings.

This is basically saying that at some point in history race wasn't an issue at all. This quote really got my attention because I don't think it's entirely true. To say that race wasn't an issue even back then is a general statement because it seems that it's always been around a little bit. I don't think that it's a modern thing either because it's been striking america for over 100 years now so that's not modern at all.

I thought the points were interesting and they defintitely got me thinking about racism a lot more and how to change it.

Anonymous said...

4. Skin color really is only skin deep.

No one knows a person's personl trait or talents when meeting them for the first time. Most people judge them, just like judging a book by its cover. Just because they're Afican-American doesn't mean that they're athletic, or if they are Asian doesn't mean that they're artistic. I guess people are good at the things they do because of how and where they grew up.

8. Race justified social inequalities as natural.

White superiority in America not just only exterminate the other ethic groups because of their color of skin, but also because of their cultures and how they did things. A lot of people will not accept other's culture or way of belief, because they think theirs are better.

10. Colorblindness will not end racism.

Race will probably live on forever. It can't just stop one day and everyone suddenly stops all the racism. Well, to me, i think everyone is equal. No one is better than the other and everyone can do what they want. Racism is just someone not accepting others' culture or belief. It is also trying to be the dominant species. It's hard to explain, but i think you get it.

Anonymous said...

What makes you black? What makes you white? What makes you asian?

4. Skin color really is only skin deep. I really belive this statement, to me skin color really is only skin deep. Your skin color doesn't make you who you are. (Example)If you have a room full of black people it dosen't mean your the same, your personalities are different, your fame of mind will be different, your thought process will be different, overall there will be a very silm chance that the people in the room will be the same, other that skin color.

7. Race and freedom evolved together. This statement stood out to me, because when you study you always hear about how African Americans and Indians were constantly enslaved. Not only even slavery, but throughout history there were many prohibitions and laws that didn't Asians or Chinese to trade and or own property in America and there were many laws that didn't allow them to even immigrant to America.

10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others. There will always be rasicim in the world, the world is too corrupted with sterotypes. When "people" see a group of black boys walking down the street they will automaticlly think that they are up to no good. When "people" are asked to describe a chinese person they automaticlly expect them to have slanted eyes. When you see a good looking black dude with a not so attractive white girl you automatically identify her to be a hoe. When you see a mixed girl you automatically expect her to be stuck up. Rasicim will always exist, even through your own race there are sterotypes
to me people in the world are too ignorant to over come and abolish rasicim in America and in the world.

Anonymous said...

2. Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait or even gene distinguishes all the members of one so-called race from all the members of another so-called race.

In a way, this is true and in a way, it's not. It's true if your history has always been marriage into the same race. But for mixed couples (like Asian with White or Black with Latino), it doesn't hold true anymore. For example, Lisa See is like half Chinese but she doesn't look Chinese at all. Without knowing anything about her, I would have classified her as white.


4. Skin color really is only skin deep. Most traits are inherited independently from one another. The genes influencing skin color have nothing to do with the genes influencing hair form, eye shape, blood type, musical talent, athletic ability or forms of intelligence. Knowing someone's skin color doesn't necessarily tell you anything else about him or her.

I agree with this. Like Peng said, it's like judging a book by it's cover. If the cover is a boring color or doesn't have a design on it and you never took the time to flip it to the back and look at the summary, you might have found out that it was a good book despite it's cover. People are like the same way. You can't assume stereotypes about people based on their skin people. Of course, stereotypes occur because the majority about that group of people is true so thus it's classified but it's not always true. Not all Black people are good at baseball, not all Asians are smart, not all White people are rich, and not all Hispanics are good dancers. What people are good and excel at are their own individual strength and talent.


10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.

Pretending something doesn't exist doesn't mean you've overcome the problem. Racism is as much a social thing as it is an individual thing. We should change social policies for equality but not in the sense to give more rights to one group of people than another because then we've just gone on with racism instead of trying to end it. For racism to really end though, it depends upon people. We can make all the rules for equality but if a white person hates a black person, they're going to hate black people no matter what. It's up to us to end racism but unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen for a long, long time or if it ever will.

Anonymous said...

2. race has no genetic basis.
I disagree with this comment because there are certain traits, genes, and characteristics that one race has that another doesn't.

10. colorblindness does not end racism.
I agree with this comment because ignoring something does not make it go away. You need to address the issue and try to change the negative things about race. I'm not saying being racist is a good thing but I think its important to recognize the differences between one race and another. Don't try to act like everyone is the same cause we're not.

4.skin color really is only skin deep.

I don't agree with this because skin even though skin color is a physical trait, we have emotions about it. Like, I'm not going to think of myself as black because my skin color is but I will think of myself as black because of my history, and family's history, and culture.

Anonymous said...

1. Race is a modern idea. An example given from the article was that the Greeks didn't divide people due to their skin color, but according to religion, class, and even language.

Race is defintely a modern idea because throughtout history, like even during the days of hunters and gatherers, people were divided, not because of skin color, but because of gender. It's only been recently, when Africans were enslaved, and because of their different skin color from Caucasians, that race became such a big deal. Today, people are not really divided by their cultural differences, they are just divided by either their income, or by their race. For instance, I'm Hmong, but to most other people of different color, I'm just another "Chinese" person, because I look Asian. Most people don't take the time to learn that even Asians have different nationality within their "race." Another example of this, is that sometimes, Africans are just all called "black," but Africa is consisted of many, many, different tribes and nationalities. Today, these cultural differences are overlooked, because race is more important.

2.Race has no genetic basis.
This point states that not one single gene distinguishes one race from anoother.

I find this statement to be funny, because obviously, race does have genetic basis. For instance, people with darker skin colors, like Africans, or Hispanics, they developed darker pigment (than let's say, French people) because they were exposed to the sun so much, and they need darker pigment to protect them from the sun's rays. That's why today, due to genes, African-Americans are still darker in color than a Caucasain person, who's ancestors came from Europe. Therefore, I believe that race obviously has genetic basis.


6.Slavery predates race.

I think that this is a valid point because in human history, the concept of race is relatively new. You may think that race has existed for a long time, but race has only existed when Portugese explorers began enslaving Africans in the mid 1400s. Before that, Africans had alreading been enslaving one another in warfare. These Africans captured slaves from war, and although they were the same color, they still enslaved one another. The idea of slavery for these Africans was not that of race, but of cultural differences. One African tribe would go into war with another tribe and capture prisoners who would then be used as slave. The point, therefore, is that slavery is always associated (in the public's eye) with race, but in reality, even before race existed, slavery has always existed. This brings me back to the point in the article that race is a relatively new concept in comparison to such aspects as slavery. Before race was "important" people based their enslavement of others on cultural differences, so cultural differences has always preceded race.

Anonymous said...

1. Race is a modern idea

I do not believe that racism is a new, modern idea. Maybe the person who wrote these facts about race defines modern as when people of different races began to interact. If there are different races in a given area together, it is given that there will be some prejudices.

3. Human subspecies don't exist.

There are obviously no human subspecies. If there were subspecies, we would see humans flying or breathing under water, that's crazy.

10. Colorblindness will not end racism.

I agree that covering racism up with colorblindness would not end racism. Colorblindness would just be a strategy to attepmt to put racism to the side. If someone ignores anything, it is still there and will return at some point.

Anonymous said...

2. Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait or even gene distinguishes all the members of one so-called race from all the members of another so-called race.
---i agree with this completly. This basically is saying you canno tell what someones race is based on their appearance or genetic makeup. For instance im Puerto Rican, in PR there are light skinned people and darked skinned and medium. My uncle is very darked skinned and from appearance you would not be able to tell that he is PR, you would think he is african. This is just an example. I think our society has made up certain "standards" as to what a race should look like. This is very ignorant and before this topic came up i found myself doing this. America and even the world are very diverse in appearence and characteristics, but just because a person is "black" doesnt mean he can't be from England!

7. Race and freedom evolved together. The U.S. was founded on the radical new principle that "All men are created equal." But our early economy was based largely on slavery. How could this anomaly be rationalized? The new idea of race helped explain why some people could be denied the rights and freedoms that others took for granted.
--this states that "race" was a man made thing. Race was made to benefit "americans", just a way to get what they wanted. THey thought that they had to have somebody below them so they made "black people" inferior to them. Developing "race" was another way to deny people there rights. They thought, if your not a white man than you have no rights.

9. Race isn't biological, but racism is still real. Race is a powerful social idea that gives people different access to opportunities and resources. Our government and social institutions have created advantages that disproportionately channel wealth, power, and resources to white people. This affects everyone, whether we are aware of it or not.
--this is also very true. im not trying to make excuses for this but this ideology is what America was built on. In most cases the "white" man is seen to get all of the benefits such as better jobs, houses, cars, education. Our society is more in favor of supplying the white man with his needs.

Anonymous said...

elisa estrada
4. Skin color really is only skin deep.

A person shouldn`t be judge by their color. People are different and just because you see a group of people of the same nationality you can`t think every person from that country is the same.If everyone stops doing that many people will have the opportunity to do a lot in this society.

8. Race justified social inequalities as natural.

White superiority in America doesn`t make them the top and everyone else lower. If a ethic group starts to say the are supirior they will try do let every one else know that so they can stay in their place in society. This is not natural because nature didn`t put humans in different groups. Don`t you get it we have every thing the same we are humans that is it. We have the same organs just a different skin tone that happens because of the place you ancesters came froms. So if a white man gets a tan and this skin turns a dark brown will people think he is from African-american heritage will they believe it, may be. You get my point. Just because of you color or ethic group you shouldn`t be consider lower or higher.

10. Colorblindness will not end racism.

As long as people believe in inequality there wil always be racism. It needs to start changing in children at a young age because older people can`t change their minds. I f we teach our children to be a racism view they will and they will also teach that to their childre. It is going to take many generations for racism to start going down but for now it is a reality that is not fair.

Anonymous said...

After reading this again, I've comes to realize the contradiction in #10. Nearly every one leading up to this was about the similiarities, and how we're really not that different. If this is so, Why shouldn't colorblindness work. If we ignore skin color, wouldn't equality follw. I mean to say their is no race would basically say there is no difference amongst one another. Yeah, we still need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others, but once that is done, do we still need to acknowledge different races? It's true that individual cultures need to continue to be recognized and respected, but race could be a thing of the past.

Anonymous said...

After reading this again, I've comes to realize the contradiction in #10. Nearly every one leading up to this was about the similiarities, and how we're really not that different. If this is so, Why shouldn't colorblindness work. If we ignore skin color, wouldn't equality follw. I mean to say their is no race would basically say there is no difference amongst one another. Yeah, we still need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others, but once that is done, do we still need to acknowledge different races? It's true that individual cultures need to continue to be recognized and respected, but race could be a thing of the past.

Anonymous said...

1. Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies, like the Greeks, did not divide people according to physical distinctions, but according to religion, status, class, even language. The English language didn't even have the word 'race' until it turns up in 1508 in a poem by William Dunbar referring to a line of kings.

I don't think that it is possible that there was no division based on physical distinctions. In ancient times, people we more isolated from another, and while in Greece they may have not divided based on physical distinctions, this may be because Greece was one of the first large empires which connected other smaller places together. Before that, many people were living closer together and drifted more towards the people like them. Their only way to divide themselves then was by physical appearances.

5. Most variation is within, not between, "races." Of the small amount of total human variation, 85% exists within any local population, be they Italians, Kurds, Koreans or Cherokees. About 94% can be found within any continent. That means two random Koreans may be as genetically different as a Korean and an Italian.

This is very true. Everyone has their own genetic makeup, and even people within one family can have different genetic makeup, but two random people could see each other on the street, and look very similar.


7. Race and freedom evolved together. The U.S. was founded on the radical new principle that "All men are created equal." But our early economy was based largely on slavery. How could this anomaly be rationalized? The new idea of race helped explain why some people could be denied the rights and freedoms that others took for granted.

When the idea of all men were created equal emerged, there were people who of course felt that they were superior to other people, the people they chose ended up being the people who worked for them. This can be also shown through the creation of the 3/5 law, saying that the slaves were only 3/5 of a person.

Anonymous said...

The things about race i agree with. Race is more than just outside apperances. But i think some people were lying on the census on the sorting game because i know that some of those people were not from some of them races. The only reason i got that many wrong is bcause people be tryin to be somethin they ain't. I agree with everthing about the ten thinggyes. genes-can't tel by outside apperancer

Anonymous said...

From reading this it has been a total reality check. From reading the 10 points I've reliazed I shouldn't just put someone in a race catogory just because of their outside apperance. Many people are made up of history. And just becasue someone is black doesn't mean that can't trace their ancestry to euorpeans, hispancis, chinese or any other race. Not only that but it doesn't matter what's on the oustide. What makes you is the inside

Anonymous said...

this article is very interesting dued to the ideas that race, a single word, can play so much in society and racially. it evolved from simple word to controversial meaning between different races. i agree to these most of these point, especially the ones about how race cannot define the status of a person and that certain "color" cannot be more superior than other.

Anonymous said...

fons this anonymous response is mine

Anonymous said...

this article is very interesting dued to the ideas that race, a single word, can play so much in society and racially. it evolved from simple word to controversial meaning between different races. i agree to these most of these point, especially the ones about how race cannot define the status of a person and that certain "color" cannot be more superior than other.

Anonymous said...

2. Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait or even gene distinguishes all the members of one so-called race from all the members of another so-called race.

In truth genes don't created race, but genes does choose a peson's physical makeup. Society then put you in a race by your physical apperance.

6. Slavery predates race. Throughout much of human history, societies have enslaved others, often as a result of conquest or war, even debt, but not because of physical characteristics or a belief in natural inferiority. Due to a unique set of historical circumstances, ours was the first slave system where all the slaves shared similar physical characteristics.

This point is true. For most of human history there has been slavery, but only for a small time that race was involved in slavery.

10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.

This is true. Even if society don't want to think about race the idea is still stuck within the mind of everyone. Race will not fade away until society face the idea of race head on.

Anonymous said...

10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.



I agree with this because if the world was color-blind, that would make other forms of prejudice heat up. Language, culture, religion, and many other forms of racism would exist. We won't stop being stereotypicalists and we know it! When we can't judge by the color of skin, like Martin Luther King said in his "I have a dream" speech, we will find other ways to socially stereotype people. If the world was blind, we would probably judge on each other's voice. Or maybe how they act in public (will they panic, cry?). Social stereotypical experiments will always exist no matter how much we try to fight it, or cripple it. "Why can't we all just get along???"


3. Human subspecies don't exist. Unlike many animals, modern humans simply haven't been around long enough or isolated enough to evolve into separate subspecies or races. Despite surface appearances, we are one of the most similar of all species.

Again, I agree with the author of this article, but it's a vision of the utopia society. No matter how much we try and fight this, we won't escape it until we die. This world is corrupt beyond repair. What makes you think that just because you meditate or try to envision the perfect life that it will happen? It's time for a reality check everybody. After all, the way things are going, this corrupt and evil world won't be able to support anymore racists. I predict that there will be more violence to come in the future. No one will be able to escape it. Not even the most humble of persons. It's a pure, utopia belief that this will get better. It's a sad, but true fact: no matter how much you try to improve things, someone is always out there trying to undo them. It's sad to see such a hard-hearted world go so wrong, but I'm not saying to give up. I'm saying that we are fighting for a lost cause.


9. Race isn't biological, but racism is still real. Race is a powerful social idea that gives people different access to opportunities and resources. Our government and social institutions have created advantages that disproportionately channel wealth, power, and resources to white people. This affects everyone, whether we are aware of it or not.

This is the truest statement the author has written in my opinion because deep down, everyone knows that race isn't a biological issue, because technically, we all descended from a single race. (Look up your own histroical context!)

Anonymous said...

I find it amusing that people can be so stupid about classifing race. It's actually to the point where it's entertaining because people are soooooooo stupid. Fons I thought this was a good idea. Maybe people won't be so ignorant.

Anonymous said...

10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.

I do agree that we can not hide from racism. Racisim in my opinion is never going to end... but I also think making jokes about it in spit of another race... isn't the way to go (like most people do).

9. Race isn't biological, but racism is still real. Race is a powerful social idea that gives people different access to opportunities and resources. Our government and social institutions have created advantages that disproportionately channel wealth, power, and resources to white people. This affects everyone, whether we are aware of it or not.

I think that everyone knows that white people have a more advantage to other races. I think its wrong, your color shouldn't depict where you live, work, or how much power you can have. Giving white people the superior power does affect everyone... and hopefully one day we will be able to say that no race is better than the other.

6. Slavery predates race. Throughout much of human history, societies have enslaved others, often as a result of conquest or war, even debt, but not because of physical characteristics or a belief in natural inferiority. Due to a unique set of historical circumstances, ours was the first slave system where all the slaves shared similar physical characteristics.

I don't think that our society was the only one that had slaves with the same physical chatacterisitcs.... but if so obviously it was wrong. Because of that we still have racisim living in america today.

Anonymous said...

3. This point tell us that despite surface appearance, there is only on human species. It argued that human are not branch off into different subspecies so therefore all human are the same race. I believed that although there is only one species of human, there are differences between us. There are differences such as height, weight, and facial appearance.

6. It stated that slavery occur because of conquests, wars, and debt. Ironically, the United States was the first where all the slaves shared similar physical characteristics. Slaves became the point for power and economic reasons for many country. I think that race does not affect slavery.

10. This point tell us that we cannot fight raism with racism. By helping social policies, racism can only be help with. We can't let race fight with another race. The only wasy is equality for all people no matter how they look like.

Anonymous said...

there's nothing to do with the color of skin when it comes to race...it's just who you are...you can't judge other people of who they are just by the color of their skin...even though this blog tells us how the world is split into all kind of race, you can't judge them by their color of skin...maybe they could be puerto rican and have a very dark skin of color. They could even be a very dark skin and be hmong...that might make you think that they're laos but they can be actually hmong. i just want ot argue that you can't just way what their nationality is by the way they look or their skin color.

Anonymous said...

2- Race has no genetic basis. It's made a big deal because we gave that word a value, and most use it in a negative way.
3- Human subspecies dont exist. We are all the same species, no one is different the only race that exist is the human race.
4-Skin color really is only skin deep. people are the way they are because of how they grow up to be not because a certain skin color

Anonymous said...

I chose ideas number 2,4,and 10. In idea number 2 it states that not one specific thing characterizes a race. I think this very true because just because you are a certain race it should not limit you to certain abilities. In idea number 4 it states that ones skin color does not tell you anything more or less about them. I think this very true because just because you are a certain color it doesn't mean you'll be able to run better, be smarter, or jump higher. In idea number 10 it states that we need to identify the practices that gives other groups the advantage at another groups expense. I think this idea is true because some institutions do specifically put some groups in front of others or are targeting a specific kind. I think that these ideas help expand your mind

Anonymous said...

Most of the ideas about race i agree with except numbers 2,7, and 10. Number 2 states that race has no genetic bias. I believe that race evolves around genetic bias. People are expose to certain ways of life that make them up. You learn certain ways of life, and think in certain ways. Number 7 states that race qand freedom evolves with each other. I don't agree because i this world (time)that we live in people are very bias on certain race. Though we live in a place that claims equal rights to all but still give upper hands to others. Lastly, number 10 colorbindess will bring equality. I think opportunities are created to certain color of people.

Anonymous said...

I agree with statement 3 because we are the same specie. even though we have different color we are still the same specie. statement 6. is true because while other people like the roman have slave, the slave wasn't on race. America was the only one with slave base on race. i also agree with staement 7 because depending on how a race is perceive the race have different right. A good example is when an Asian and an african american get in trouble the african kid would be blame for because of how they are percieve. the asian is more likely not to cause trouble so wouldn't be blame.

Anonymous said...

6. Slavery predates race. Throughout much of human history, societies have enslaved others, often as a result of conquest or war, even debt, but not because of physical characteristics or a belief in natural inferiority. Due to a unique set of historical circumstances, ours was the first slave system where all the slaves shared similar physical characteristics.

That's why it's so foolish when people get all angry to hear the word slavery because they happen to be black. Slavery happened to everybody's ethnicity. It was horrible(< understatement). It's over for the most part, so focus on dealing with it where it still exists instead of getting angry at that word. Slave slave slave... got you there, didn't I?

8. Race justified social inequalities as natural. As the race idea evolved, white superiority became "common sense" in America. It justified not only slavery but also the extermination of Indians, exclusion of Asian immigrants, and the taking of Mexican lands by a nation that professed a belief in democracy. Racial practices were institutionalized within American government, laws, and society.

Those crazy athiests have to shoot out some theory of creation which is evolution through natural selection. So, by getting "unbrainwashed" and seperating ourselves from God we get millions upon millions slaughtered simply because now people think they're intrinsically better than one another. Don't take the Catholic church did horrible things arguement. I'm not Catholic. They are and were not practicing true Christianity at all.

4. Skin color really is only skin deep. Most traits are inherited independently from one another. The genes influencing skin color have nothing to do with the genes influencing hair form, eye shape, blood type, musical talent, athletic ability or forms of intelligence. Knowing someone's skin color doesn't necessarily tell you anything else about him or her.

Sounds fine and dandy to me. But, knowing someone's skin color really can and does tell a lot about someone(often).

Anonymous said...

2 (Race has no genetic basis) and 4 (Skin color really is only skin deep). These points are saying race is not linked to genes at all, which is simply not true. Obviously there's no one characteristic that everyone in a race has, but evolving in isolation causes gene flow that causes very visible differences. Likewise, although skin color doesn't influence anything else, skin color and other traits are affected by the same things. Namely, your ancestors. People shouldn't call in scientific evidence unless they know what they're talking about.

6. (Slavery predates race). Most slavery came from things that had nothing to do with race. I think that former system was much better because it wasn't even "slavery" at all; being a slave was a temporary position and often the slaves lived and ate with their "masters" and were treated just as well.

10. (Colorblindness will not end racism). This is saying we need programs like Affirmative Action and the NAACP and we can't just ignore the inequalities that exist in the hope that they'll go away. I agree completely. Making people tolerant and unprejudiced is a good goal but it won't solve all the problems that are more deep-rooted, which is why the minority-advancement organizations are necessary.

Anonymous said...

1- Race is modern idea. Well, race is not a modern idea. Race has been placing people since the nation first started. Race and being classified is how the world has become the way it is.

10- Colorblindness would not end racism. etc
I agree with Jessica on this. No race is better than another and if people would stop telling their kids that "We're better than them" then we wouldnt even have this problem.

Anonymous said...

i finally got onto the site.score. well, here it goes.

2- Race has no genetic basis.
This would be... VALID. Jessica, while it is true that everyone is exposed to culture and society at birth, wouldnt you say that many other factors play into a "culture" than ethnicity? for example, if i, being the whitest of white people, were the son of a talented basketball player, wouldnt you say that if i practiced harder and more often than 85 percent of african americans that i would be a better basketball player? not because im white, but because of the circumstances of my motivation and upbringing? if i was told everyday that i am black and i can"hoop" then id probably start to believe it. this statement supported by sudy that was done with a group of african americans and test taking. getting to the point, those who specified their race on the test did significantly poorer than those who did not. what does that tell us? and the explantion for this? those who specified their race subconsciously thought " damn, im black. im not supposed to do good on tests." THIS IS NOT THE CASE. i know some very intelligent african americans.

1-RaCE is a modern idea.-- Obviously there is no "correct response" to any of these statements-- While our most commonly recognized "account" for the importance of race comes from african american slavery in the us, we must remember that slavery has been present throughout history. its logical, of course, that ancient peoples based their "classes" MORE on religion and other factors, we STILL face the same critiquing. while it is acceptable to say that people are more aware of racism in our world today, it would be illogical to say that racism is a modern idea.

7. Race and freedom evolved together. The U.S. was founded on the radical new principle that "All men are created equal." But our early economy was based largely on slavery. How could this anomaly be rationalized? The new idea of race helped explain why some people could be denied the rights and freedoms that others took for granted.
**Ding Ding** 3/5 compromise. if all men are created equal, the why did the white men have the "freedom" to enslave PEOPLE? and further more, not that we needs to go into this again, but what about the women? there is still A ridiculous amount of discrimination occurs everyday in our country. "social mores" and " rights", in my opinion, go hand in hand. you should have the RIGHT to date whoever you please, but homosexuality is frowned upon because youre breaking a stupid social more. im tired and rambling..peace!

Who else did awful on the matching activity?!

Anonymous said...

i finally got onto the site.score. well, here it goes.

2- Race has no genetic basis.
This would be... VALID. Jessica, while it is true that everyone is exposed to culture and society at birth, wouldnt you say that many other factors play into a "culture" than ethnicity? for example, if i, being the whitest of white people, were the son of a talented basketball player, wouldnt you say that if i practiced harder and more often than 85 percent of african americans that i would be a better basketball player? not because im white, but because of the circumstances of my motivation and upbringing? if i was told everyday that i am black and i can"hoop" then id probably start to believe it. this statement supported by sudy that was done with a group of african americans and test taking. getting to the point, those who specified their race on the test did significantly poorer than those who did not. what does that tell us? and the explantion for this? those who specified their race subconsciously thought " damn, im black. im not supposed to do good on tests." THIS IS NOT THE CASE. i know some very intelligent african americans.

1-RaCE is a modern idea.-- Obviously there is no "correct response" to any of these statements-- While our most commonly recognized "account" for the importance of race comes from african american slavery in the us, we must remember that slavery has been present throughout history. its logical, of course, that ancient peoples based their "classes" MORE on religion and other factors, we STILL face the same critiquing. while it is acceptable to say that people are more aware of racism in our world today, it would be illogical to say that racism is a modern idea.

7. Race and freedom evolved together. The U.S. was founded on the radical new principle that "All men are created equal." But our early economy was based largely on slavery. How could this anomaly be rationalized? The new idea of race helped explain why some people could be denied the rights and freedoms that others took for granted.
**Ding Ding** 3/5 compromise. if all men are created equal, the why did the white men have the "freedom" to enslave PEOPLE? and further more, not that we needs to go into this again, but what about the women? there is still A ridiculous amount of discrimination occurs everyday in our country. "social mores" and " rights", in my opinion, go hand in hand. you should have the RIGHT to date whoever you please, but homosexuality is frowned upon because youre breaking a stupid social more. im tired and rambling..peace!

Who else did awful on the matching activity?!

Anonymous said...

I completely agree with the ten ideas on race you can't catergorize someone based on appearence you have no idea who they are or what thier ancestory is. I also agree that race is a socially created idea there are no diferences based besides apperance it's too bad that people can't realize that stereo types are made up to keep races seperate.

Anonymous said...

I think this article borught some good points and i agree with most of it. one of the this that I don't quite agree with is the agruement brought up about Race has no genetic basis. I think your race is genetic. Genetics are passed down from person to person and generation to generation. Your skin color and ethnicity is determine by your genetics. The shape of your eyes, the keeness of your nose, thickness of yor lips all are determined by genetics and they all are used as sterotypes to determine your race. Another points I didn't agree with is Race is a modern idea. I think race has been made a difference between people since the begin but it hasn't always been a problem. Even cavemen knew if they look different from another. I'm pretty sure they looked at each an said one was dark and one was light in their own language. Race justified social inequlities as natural is a point I don't agree with because race don't justify social equality, people in a race do. Whites decided that the had more power, were better,and superior to black people and since there was no way to stop them blacks were forced into slavery. I don't think race justified superior but wealth did in the beginning of time because everyone lived in one specific place and they all thought they were equal in appearance.

Anonymous said...

keishla lamb hr.6-7
The 3 points that I choose are:
4.Skin color really is only skin deep:knowing someone's skin color doesn't necessarily tell you anything else about him or her.
Someone's color of skin doesn't tell you about a person.There is more to a person than skin.For example their personality,background,family,talent,shape,size,etc.In that case I agree with this statement.
7.Race and freedom evolved together:The U.S was founded on the radical new principle that"All men are created equal."
I strongly agree with this because no man or woman should be different of any kind.God created everyone equally.I know that the early economy was based largely on slavery but over the period of time people now have the rights and freedom.
9.Race isn't biological,but racism is still real:This affects everyone,whether we are aware of it or not.
Racism does seem to still be real because everyone has different opinions about race and racism.They seem to get confused with the two.Why is it that channel wealth,power,and resources are to white people.I don't know if I'm reading it wrong but that's what i think it was trying to say